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♪ good morning. i'm jane pauley and this is "sunday morning." we'll begin this morning with a matter of interest. those tens of thousands of college loans adding up to millions and millions of dollars in debt stymying generations of college graduates. lilia luciano looks that how things got so bad and what, if anything, we should do about it. then, on to people making their mark in their 70s, 80s, 90s and beyond. earlier this year, the cdc reported an increase in life ex expectancy for americans. after two years of declines, primarily due to covid. the average person born in 2022 can expect to live 77.5 years. more than a year longer than the

last projection. of course, many will live even longer than that, and as mo rocca will tell us, some familiar and not so familiar names have made remarkable contributions well into their so-called golden years. he calls them roctogenarians. >> reporter: what do colonel sanders, diana nyad, and rita moreno have in common? they all peaked when they could have been puttering. to what do you attribute this explosion of work in your 80s and now into your 90s? >> i have no idea. i think it's astonishing. >> reporter: the astonishing late in life triumphs of roctogenarians ahead on "sunday morning." there is more to julia louis-dreyfus than her award-winning comedy roles on shows like "seinfeld" and "veep." a lot more. this morning she is in conversation with natalie morales.

>> reporter: comedian julia louis-dreyfus is best known or her roles on "seinfeld" and "veep." >> i don't get put on hold, okay? >> reporter: in her new film "tuesday," she is showing off a different side. >> i love you so much more than me. >> reporter: your instincts have been right? >> the only mistakes i made is when i haven't trusted my instincts, to tell you the truth. >> reporter: julia louis-dreyfus not just for laughs coming up on "sunday morning." as a singer, songwriter and producer, lionel richie has pretty much done it all. as he tells tracy smith, no accomplishment has had as big an impact as the song he co-wrote and helped produce back in 1985. ♪ we are the world ♪ ♪ we are the children ♪ >> reporter: imagine 46 of the biggest names in music recording a song most had never heard

before with only one night to do it. superstar lionel richie was feeling the heat. >> we got two hours. >> reporter: and yet when we see you in the footage, you look cool as a cucumber. >> that's called youth, naivete and you don't know you can die at that exact moment. >> reporter: the real story behind "we are the world" later on "sunday morning." also this morning, david martin takes us on a journey back to the eve of the d-day landing in normandy. actor and director griffin dunne discusses family and fame with kelefa sanneh. plus, rita braver marking the 50th anniversary of the smithsonian's hirshhorn museum. chris livesay on yesterday's rescue of those four israeli hostages from gaza. and more. this is "sunday morning" for the 9th of june, 2024, and we'll be back in a moment. ♪

we begin with the middle east where israeli forces in gaza yesterday rescued four hostages kidnapped in october's hamas-led attack. correspondent chris livesay is in tel aviv.

>> reporter: for a country enduring 245 days of a hostage crisis, a rare moment to celebrate. this beach in tel aviv hears that four hamas captives are finally back home. allied invasion, andrei kozlov, shalom any ziv, noa argamani. argamani screamed don't kill me as gunmen kidnapped her on a motorcycle. now she is reunited with her father and her mother dying of cancer. al nothing meir, his mother told cbs news what seeing that did to her. >> i start to shake. >> reporter: this day, that terror turned into relief.

>> i couldn't stop hugging him and tomorrow is my birthday, so i got my present. >> reporter: meir's friends cheered his return. >> what did you say? >> i shouted, i love you, i love you, and crying, everybody's crying. >> reporter: israel says hamas was hiding the hostages in densely populated central gaza among civilians in two separate apartment buildings. it was a risky daytime rescue operation. the biggest, israel says, since the start of the war. sources tell cbs news it was conducted with the help of u.s. intelligence. over 200 were killed, according to hamas. the latest in a conflict now in its ninth month with more than 30,000 reported dead and peace deals so far elusive. at rally in tel aviv, emotions

are hard to define. it's been a day of joy, but a bit tempered. people just can't forget that 120 other people are still being held hostage. like carmel got, gl is her cousin. >> you can't celebrate while she is not here. it's a little victory for all of the families and for us and the big victory, the huge victory will be when all the hostages come home. see? homequote explorer lets you easily compare home insurance options so you can get what you need without overpaying. yeah, we've spent a lot on this kitchen. oh, yeah, really high-end stuff. -sorry, that's our ghost. -yeah, okay. he's more annoying than anything. too bad there's mold behind the backsplash. [ sniffs ] yep, that's mold. well, then, let's see if we can save you some money with progressive. guess how much i originally paid for this fireplace? 23 bucks. materials and labor. just ignore him. you got bamboozled!

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for the past month, college graduations have been in full swing across america, cause for excitement, celebration, and for some grads sticker shock. because of student loan debt. lilia luciano has a crash course in a $1 trillion dilemma. >> freddie lee williams jr. >> reporter: back in 2019, freddie williams junior had a lot on his mind at his college graduation. >> hey, this is how much you owe, you're going to have to start paying this back. >> reporter: growing up on the south side of chicago, he dreamed of going to morehouse. the historically black college in atlanta that counts martin luther king jr. among the distinguished alumni. >> when i got accepted and saw that the money is being offered, but didn't have an idea of what

all is really i was getting into. >> reporter: at commencement -- >> we will put little fuel in your bus. >> reporter: freddie williams got the surprise of a lifetime. >> my family is making a grant to eliminate their student loans. >> reporter: when billionaire businessman robert f. smith pledged to pay the student loans for the entire class. clearing some $34 million in student and parent debt. >> it was crazy. you know, to look back and see my parents in the stands crying and celebrating, like that's when i knew, okay, this is big. >> reporter: how big was your debt? >> in total, around 125k. >> reporter: wow. that is a huge weight to be lifted. >> tremendous. >> reporter: total student loan debt in the u.s. is now nearly $1.8 trillion. experts say many young people are delaying buying homes and starting families because of it.

but the morehouse class of 2019 is something of an experiment. ♪ >> reporter: what could lives look like when students graduate debt-free? >> i think only now as we get five years out, people realize the implication of what having no loans is. it can buy a house right after graduation, which people we interviewed, they did. >> we need a parent -- >> reporter: filmmakers josh reiff and emani rashad saucier are also part of the class of 2019. >> take one. >> reporter: they are making a documentary about how their classmates are faring thanks to that generous gift. >> someone started a nonprofit to get black and brown students into tech. someone became a family man, like they have a daughter now. >> this is what happened at morehouse. they got the debt cleared and had this exponential effect. what happens when we clear the debt for millions of americans? >> reporter: last year the

supreme court struck down president biden's ambitious $430 billion student debt relief plan. >> supreme court blocked me from relieving student debt. >> reporter: the administration has expanded existing programs to cancel $167 billion in debt with most relief going to people working in the public sector and for nonprofits. >> sort of doing these piecemeal fixes, but they are not doing anything to stop the underlying problem. >> reporter: josh mitchell is the author of the debt trap trap. he says congress created the federal student loan program to expand college access, but by allowing students and their parents to borrow virtually any amount to study virtually anything, the government has enabled colleges to raise tuition without consequence. >> there is a cycle of students take out loans, schools raise their tuition, students take out more loans. that's essentially what's happened the past 40 years.

that's why tuition up until recent years has grown at sometimes triple the rate of inflation. >> reporter: more than half of all college students now graduate with student loan debt. the average owing nearly $30,000. now with all of this debt, how much is it impacting the economy negatively? >> the u.s. economy is the world's biggest most dynamic in large part because of higher education. but you also have a lot of students who are not in default on loans, but devoting more and more of their paychecks to paying off debt. money they could have used to save for retirement or buy a house or start a business. for the average student, there is a payoff for going to college. i think that the problem is they are overpaying. >> reporter: the cost of tuition has increased to a degree far greater than inflation. why did that happen? >> colleges and universities obviously, have to be good stewards and look at our

business model. i will say this. we are in the business of human capital. human capital is expensive. so when you think about investing in teaching, research, scholarship, those things are investments we have to make. >> reporter: nicole herd is the president of lafayette college, a private four-year school in easton, pennsylvania. >> we are known for liberal arts engineering. >> reporter: she worries fear of student debt is discouraging the lower and middle income students who benefit most from attending college. >> so fixed on the price and we are thinking about the sticker shock of the price. we are not thnking about the long-term investment as individuals, as families and as a country. if somebody goes to college, their children go to college, grandchildren go to college. >> reporter: tuition and room and board at lafayette is more than $87,000 a year. though in recent years, the school has made efforts to offer more grants and fewer loans as part of its financial aid packages. >> so we met their demonstrated

need with a $39,531 of grant assistance. >> reporter: some debt is okay. a little skin in the game is not the end of the world. we can't have people have hundreds of thousands of student debt. that's not okay. the nonprofit sector in higher education getting better about beng transparent about what debt is and making sure students and families make good choices. >> more than 40 million americans have student loan debt with 3.5 million owing more than $100,000. the average interest on that debt is nearly 7%. the average length of repayment more than 20 years. it's why filmmaker joshua reed believes the story of the morehouse class of 2019 needs to be told. >> people are being crushed by the immense weight of this debt, but once its relieved they can go on to do all sorts of things. >> reporter: how often do you

think about what you don't have to pay in student loans? >> almost every day. >> reporter: freddie williams jr. was back on campus last month for the five-year reunion of that lucky class. the 26-year-old software engineer says instead of paying back a mountain of debt, he gets to pay the gift forward. >> it was bigger than just having my debt paid off because of that gift, you know, i was able to buy a house. with buying a house, that allowed for my brother to move in while he is finishing his degree. i know in my soul that i have to continue to give back and pass it forward. this portion of "sunday morning" is brought to you by vyvgart and vyvgart hytrulo. gr, picture what life could look like with vyvgart hytrulo, a subcutaneous injection that takes about 30 to 90 seconds. for one thing, could it mean more time for you? vyvgart hytrulo can improve daily abilities and reduce muscle weakness

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rita braver this morning has a rags-to-riches tale from art world with an ending that enriches all of us. >> this is a day to remember, the proudest day of my life. >> reporter: that was 50 years ago. the day in 1974 that the museum bearing joseph.

>> hirshhorn's name opened in washington, d.c. part of the smithsonian institution, it was a revolutionary concept dedicated to the emerging idea that art didn't have to look like real places or people or things. >> buying old masters was always respectable and sound. but acquiring modern art of what was called modern art was thought to be something of a curiosity if not looked eccentric. >> reporter: but joseph hirshhorn knew what he was doing. this collection of wonderful sculptures contains works by max ernst, jean around, barbara hepworth, henry moore. mr. hirshhorn collected widely. >> reporter: melisa chiu, director of the hirshhorn museum and sculpture garden, says hirshhorn also gave the museum important works by swiss

sculptor albearto giacometti and american david smith. the hirshhorn got only a small sampling of the pieces into a new exhibit celebrating the museum's 50th anniversary. how many works are in this particular show? >> over 200. >> reporter: and was it hard to choose? >> of course. like a parent with children. >> reporter: because, in all, hirshhorn gave more than 12,000 works to the museum. >> just to name a few of the artists he collected, william anders, henri matisse, thomas eakins, george bellows, jacob lawrence, helen frankenthaler, joan mitchell. jackson pollock. cy twombly. >> he was an extraordinary collector. the photographs of his office in new york is paintings stacked all around him. >> in his very active years in '50s and '60s, he bought an

average of two works a day. >> reporter: the director of the montreal museum of fine arts, he was previously chief curator of the hirshhorn and says that the man who amassed such a great collection was born in 1899, a jew from latvia who immigrated to new york at age 6 with his widowed mother. >> they lived in a tenement in brooklyn. they were very poor and struggling. >> reporter: but young joe found his way to wall street as an office boy and soon started putting small amounts of money into the market. >> by age 17, he was actually making serious money. >> yes, he made $168,000 a year. it amounts to $5 million today, which is enormous for a young man. >> reporter: hirshhorn went on to make a far bigger fortune

speculating in gold, oil and youraneiam in canada. how way describe him as a person? >> dynamic, energetic. would speak very quickly. came across as impulsive but was extremely smart. >> reporter: and he always loved art and artists. >> he respected what they stood for in society. talent and freedom and vision. >> reporter: when word got out that he was going to donate his art somewhere, did a lot of places vie for it? >> everyone wanted joseph hirshhorn's collection. the queen of england, the city of toronto, florence wanted it. >> reporter: but the secretary of the smithsonian sprang into action. >> dillon ripley was a smart man and he got lady bird johnson to help him to persuade mr. and mrs. hirshhorn to give their collection.

and president lyndon johnson was very much an active supporter of the project and was here for the groundbreaking. >> reporter: but there was controversy. because an exchange for his collection, hirshhorn demanded that his name be on the museum. the first time the smithsonian would open the museum named for a living person. and not only that. >> it was rumored that maybe people didn't like the fact that he was jewish and that was another reason that they didn't like the museum being named for him. >> there is some discussion anecdotally and in the historcal archives that that was one factor. >> reporter: and then there was the museum itself. designed by gordon, it was a far cry from the neoclassical buildings that made up most of washington. >> some people loved it.

some people referred to it as the bunker. >> well, if we think architectural history, there are so many examples of radical architecture and monuments that are much hated at the moment that they were built, and then much loved in history. >> reporter: hirshhorn, who tied in 1981, wanted the museum to keep pushing boundaries. so this exhibit pairs older works from his collection like this john singer sergeant portrait from 1884 with recent acquisitions like this portrait from 2020. >> and this is something of a rising star. so it really is the beginnings of our mission of modern art. late 19th century. then through to today. >> reporter: all due to one visionary man. you, of course, never got to meet joseph hirshhorn. is there something that you

would say to him now if you could meet him? >> i would say thank you. what an extraordinary gift.

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- lift the clouds off of... - virtual weather, only on kpix and pix+. actor and director griffin dunne has quite a tale to tell. a life story featuring an illustrious family, exhilarating highs, and some terrible lows. this morning he shares his inspiration with our kelefa sanneh. >> i would tell stories. these stories were kind of incredible. i had people riveted. a lot of the stories involved people that people had heard of. >> yes. but not -- i didn't want to be like a name dropping sort of thing. >> reporter: there were a lot of

names to drop. griffin dunne grew up in california surrounded by the stories of his well-known literary family. his dad, dominick dunne, his uncle john gregory dunne and his aunt joan didion were all famous writers. the fortune came from his mom, ellen griffin dunne. >> my great, great, great-grandfather, not sure how many greats are in there, found the griffin wheel company. it was an empire. every train in america had a griffin wheel. >> i thought these -- >> reporter: griffin dunne is an actor, producer-director burke the book is about his family. it chronicles the good, the bad, and excessive. this is from the anniversary of their tenth anniversary. his father kept meticulous scrapbooks. >> tenth wedding anniversary. there would be no 11th. >> reporter: even though the hosts were on the brink of divorce, seemingly all of hollywood turned out. >> billy wilder is here.

angela lansbury. dennis hopper. david niven. angie dickinson still looks amazing. >> reporter: at our house. >> our house. a hardwood floor over the pool for dancing. it was a very extravagant ball. >> reporter: too extravagant for griff and his younger siblings. >> they put my brother and sister and i in our pjs and checked us into a hotel for the night. >> reporter: what? >> yeah, that's how they rolled. >> reporter: not for long. >> my parents got divorced, there were no more parties. my mother didn't care about that stuff. >> reporter: by then his father's brother and wife were just up the coast in malibu. >> john and joan were at the epicenter of film making in the '70s. >> reporter: they hosted hollywood's new generation. steven speilberg, martin scorsese, warren beatty. >> i was precocious enough to be invited to john and joan's parties. >> hanging out with rock stars all of a sudden? near rock stars?

>> yeah, yeah. >> reporter: griffin dropped out of high school and headed east. >> when i moved to new york i was very, i don't know, i guess embarrassed that i grew up in beverly hills. i wanted to invent myself, wanted to be a theater actor, work downtown. >> reporter: he was a working actor in a sense. >> working at radio city music hall as a popcorn concessionaire. >> reporter: a paper hat? >> yes. >> reporter: soon his best friend carrie fisher came from california with mer mother, debbie reynolds, who was starring in a musical on broadway. >> debbie summoned me. she said my daughter wants to move to new york. you have to be her roommate. >> reporter: you have a front row seat when she makes the strange decision to take a part in this movie about outer space? >> she got this part in this movie. she goes, it's ridiculous. i got to take it. >> reporter: 1977, "star wars" broke box office records. >> i mean, it was like the

beatles came back to life. >> reporter: the film turned carrie fisher into a household name. >> it's a particular thing when you have a best friend who becomes suddenly overnight unbelievably famous. it's also very tough when you are that person who becomes unbelievably famous. >> did you hear that? >> reporter: 1981 griffin dunne appeared in an american werewolf in london. his world was about to change, too, but in a different way. >> my last phone call with her was, you know, i was on my way to a movie. >> actress dominique dunne died thursday. >> reporter: griffin's little ser, dominique dunne, also an contacter, was strangled by her ex-boyfriend in 1982. she was 22 years old. and nothing was ever the same. we never known violence to come in our home like that. we never knew loss, grief that immediate.

>> reporter: dominique's killer was sentenced to # 1/2 years in prison. throughout the trial griffin was in the courtroom in the day and on set at nate filming johnny dangerously. >> i am going to dedicate my life to fighting crime. isn't that great? >> reporter: was it helpful to have a project like that to distract you a little bit during those months? >> i was so grateful for it. >> you and i are stuck together like glue, like mutt and jeff. >> reporter: he continued making movies starring in who's that girl with madonna and after hours directed by martin scorsese. >> reminds me of that painting. was it the shriek? >> scream. >> scream. right. >> reporter: you write in the book, i was too young to understand gratitude for living the dream. >> you think this is going to happen again, the offers come in. some people just forget the hunger that got them there in the first place. and i think i had a touch of

that. >> reporter: starting in the '90s he directed movies including practical magic. >> i don't care what he comes back arizona long as he comes back. >> reporter: he directed a documentary about his aunt joan. >> i, myself, have always found if i kpajen something, it's less squarery. >> reporter: how did you think about nepotism? >> it's hard out there. if you're good and you're related to somebody famous, that does get you in the door. >> reporter: but do you understand why some people are kind of bothered by that? >> i understand why people would be, and but i think who wouldn't wouldn't to see robert downey? what if he felt i don't want to cash in on my dad? bed 'never get to erobert downey. >> reporter: at 69, griffin dunne, who once wanted to escape his family legacy, is now proud to be a part of it. do you still love show business? >> vep. very much. i never, ever tired of show

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passing. apollo astronaut william anders has died. as lee cowan tells us, he left us with a gift that was truly out of this world. >> the engines are on. four, three, two, one, zero.

>> reporter: it was the crew of apollo 8 that achieved the dream that explorers have had since the beginning of time. >> man is farther away from home than ever before. >> reporter: in 1968, frank borman, jim lovin' and william anders the first humans to ever orbit another world. anders broadcast his initial impressions to the whole world. >> well. >> i said that it looked like dirty beach sand. >> a very whitish gray. >> that's how i described it. thus, gaining the wrath of poets worldwide, you know. could he have done better? probably. >> reporter: anders made up for his pedestrian description of the moon by taking this photo. >> oh, my god, look at that picture over there. >> re >> reporter: out of the small window of the command module. it forever changed how we think of ourselves. >> it was ironic that we have done all this work to come and

explore the moon and what we really discovered was the earth. >> reporter: "earthrise" one of the most reproduced images ever. it moves almost everyone who has seen it, including former vice president al gore. >> it pointed the way towards a new understanding of who we are as human beings. >> reporter: anders was still flying high when we met him in 2018. >> i'm bill. >> i'm wayne. nice to meet you. >> reporter: sadly, this past friday his vintage single-engine plane crashed into the waters near the san juan islands off washington state with only him aboard. he was 90 years old. they could say a lot of things like he died doing what he loved, if he had to go, it is better this way. it's the same. we lost the man who gave us our first heavenly view of our home. a perspective we is a often forget. thank goodness william anders

left us something to remind us how big and yet how small we truly are. >> oh, my god, look at that picture over there. wow, that pretty. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

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new book out called "roctogenarians" and here with a preview. >> reporter: i've done hundreds of segments for this show over the last 17 years. >> i am an adrenaline junkie. without adrenaline, i'd die. >> reporter: i'll admit it. i prefer more seasoned interview subjects. did anyone ever accuse you of being a puck hog? >> shall we go one more. >> reporter: older people just have better stories. >> i didn't want him to ask me to marry him because i didn't want to say no to frank sinatra. >> reporter: you see the oscar. so 11 years ago, i jumped at the chance to interview screen legend rita moreno. we first met in 2013 when you were just 81 at that point. >> just 81. imagine that. >> reporter: do you remember any of the moves from america? >> oh, sure.

>> reporter: and before i knew it, you were teaching me dance steps. ♪ ♪ >> reporter: as it turned out, rita was embarkong yet another chapter of her already storied career. still to come, starring in a reboot of the sitcom "one day at a time." >> there's tom. >> reporter: hit movies like "80 for brady." >> he's cute. >> mora! >> reporter: and fittingly enough -- >> what is in your heart? >> reporter: joining the "fast and furious" franchise. >> you will never lose your way. >> here i am. 92. i want to say 92 so i will. you can cut that out, of course. >> reporter: we've been conditioned to think of the last third of life as a time to wrap things up.

but more and more we see people like moreno reaching new peaks instead of packing in. i call these people roctogenarians, and they are not new. >> just not for me, retirement. i believe a man will rust out. >> reporter: take harland sanders, who was 66 and living off social security when he hit the road to peddle his secret recipe of 11 herbs and spices to restaurant owners. bit time colonel sanders was 74, kentucky fried chicken had 900 locations worldwide. ♪ >> reporter: writer frank mccort was 66 when he broke out, and in a sense broke free. for years this high school english teacher had wondered if his story was even worth telling. >> worse than the ordinary

missouriable childhood is the miserable irish childhood. worse yet is the miserable irish catholic childhood. >> reporter: his memoir, angela's ashes, became a literary sensation. >> i had to get it out of my system. i would have died howling if i hadn't written this book. >> reporter: for some roctogenarians, dying without regrets means taking care of unfinished business. queen guitarist brian may went back to school to finish his ph.d. in astrophysics at age 60. >> it's all about intuition and passion and determination. >> i never got a break. >> reporter: diana nyad first attempted to swim from cuba to florida when she was 28. three decades later, she tried again, and again, and again. until finally completing the journey at 64.

>> you never are too old to chase your dreams. >> reporter: roctogenarians don't rest on their laurels, they are too in it to spend their days looking backward. think 75-year-old celebrated architect i.m. pei breathing new life into paris' louvre museum by placing a glass pyramid right at the center. >> the pyramid is a necessity and not an architectural gesture. >> reporter: nothing retiring about that move. mary church terrell came out of retirement after a lifetime battling for civil rights. at age 86, she rejoined the fight, leading sit-ins at segregated lunch counters in washington, d.c. then there was norman lear. in his third or was it his fourth or fifth act, leading

exercises at 93. >> i get an applause doing this. >> reporter: just one year older than rita moreno is now. do you get tired of people pointing out your age? >> no. >> reporter: why? >> not at all. i think it's important that they be aware that there are old people who are energetic. i feel so fortunate to be in the place where i am right now. so fortunate. i mean, i really sometimes wake up singing.

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♪ all night long ♪ ♪ all night ♪ ♪ all night long ♪ it's "sunday morning" on cbs and here again is jane pauley. >> he is one of the best-selling music artists of all time, with millions of fans worldwide, but as tracy smith explains, lionel richie may be best known for one song in particular. recorded on a fateful night nearly 40 years ago.

>> reporter: in the universe of pop music from the is the 80s, there is one song that is especially hard to shake. ♪ we are the world ♪ ♪ we are the children ♪ ♪ we are the ones who make a brighter day ♪ ♪ so let's start giving ♪ >> reporter: in 1985, "we are the world" was made to raise money for food aid to africa. the song and the saga of recording it are a netflix documentary, "the greatest night in pop." >> we got e camera and c camera. >> that's a lot of cameras, guys. we are going to cover this thing. what do we have? >> reporter: lionel richie co-wrote the song and helped 46 of the biggest music stars on earth record it in one crazy all-night session in january 1985. how did you do it? >> naivete.

>> reporter: was it? >> naivete, number one. number two, we didn't have any distractions. there was no internet. there was no cellphones. there was nothing but purity of a thought, an idea, and how to get it done. ♪ >> reporter: it all started with do they know it's christmas, the british charity single meant to raise awareness and open wallets for food aid to famine-ravaged africa. singer and philanthropist belmont stakes thought american artists could do the same. he called ken kragen to help round up talent and kragen got lionel richie and michael jackson to write a song. tell me about that. what was the process like writing the song with michael jackson? >> at the beginning it was no terror at all because we had no deadline. >> reporter: so that meant? >> whenever you can write it, we can write it. it's no problem. >> reporter: they wrote at michael jackson's house with all

of his pets, including a large snake. you're trying to write a song? >> trying to write the lyrics to te song and i'm screaming and he going, he wants to play with you, lionel. anyway. so to make a long story shot, we finished the lyrics. >> reporter: meanwhile, ken kragen kept calling more big names to join in and the project started to snowball. >> and next thing i know, kragen calls on the phone and says, bruce is in. dillon's in. dylan. bob dylan? what are you talking about? ray's coming. ray charles. ray? ray is coming? all of a sudden we went from just la la la to panic. >> reporter: finally, with the song written, they made a plan to record it the night of the american music awards in january 1985, when all of the big names in music were in los angeles. >> and the key word for tonight is outrageous.

>> reporter: outrageous is right. richie hosted the three-hour show that night. but his main event started afterwards when the mega stars started arriving for a recording session for the ages. diana ross, bruce springsteen, stevie wonder, ray charles, and so many more. >> it was just a room full of 5-year-olds and we are all amazed we are there with each other and getting used to each other. i call it the first day of first grade. so you're all in the room without your parents and we don't know exactly that we're oo doing and quincy's the parent. ♪ we are the world ♪ >> and we pulled it off. ♪ we are the children ♪ >> reporter: how did quincy jones keep the big talent and those big egos in line? you might call it peer pressure. >> i kept saying to quincy, does everybody go in the booth and sing their part?

he said, no, we will put them a circle and they will be perfect. every time we sing. why? because you are standing and looking into the rest of the class. you are going to be perfect every time, you know? it was true. and a little intimidating. did i say a little intimidating? intimidating. >> reporter: was it intimidating for you? >> it was terrifying. what am i saying? aim trying to be ever so calm about this. ♪ there is a choice we are making ♪ >> reporter: the best moments of the night, seems, when the immortals in the room let their guard down a bit, when diana ross asked daryl hall for an autograph. ♪ it's true we make a better day ♪ >> it got me, diana ross asking for autographs. >> and of course you couldn't get enough of that, just to sit around, hey man, i am a big fan. and then we just melted into this family. ♪ we are saving our own lives ♪ ♪ it's true we make a better day

just you and me ♪ >> reporter: the session lasted well into the next morning. ♪ the greatest gift of all ♪ >> reporter: and for those in the room, it was trying. >> we have a lot of -- >> oh, is that -- oh, my earrings? >> reporter: and triumphant. ♪ we are the world ♪ ♪ we are the children ♪ ♪ we are the children ♪ >> reporter: was there a moment that night when you thought we're not going to be able to pull this off? >> several times. it was just fatigue at one point. once you get to 4:00 in the morning and we are putting on individual parts -- ♪ it's true we make a better day ♪ >> springsteen left the building on the last thing we put on the record at 8:00. >> reporter: 8:00 in the morning? >> yes. around 7:30, 8:00 was his last la la. ♪ well, send them your heart ♪ >> reporter: the single was

released in march 1985. it went straight to number one and raised tens of millions of dollars. for one brief moment in time, the world seemed to unite just a little. ♪ it's true we make a better day just you and me ♪ >> we actually thought we were going to wipe out hunger around the world. all we needed to do was just tell a few people and the rest of the world would take over and the whole world would run next door and save their next door neighbors and their cities and their communities. and then about three years later, the world went back to sleep. >> reporter: but since the documentary premiered in january, there has been a renewed interest. the song "we are the world" was back on the billboard charts and donations started flowing again. in the past six months, more than $600,000 and count pg. ♪ there comes a time when we heed a certain call ♪ >> reporter: to lionel richie it's not so much a song, but a

gift. it keeps on giving. you raised 80 million and now double that? >> yeah, we raised a lot of money. >> reporter: did you get a chance to see that in action? >> yeah. we kept thinking we are going get 5 million, hopefully, raise 10. once you get to 40 and 50, whoa. what the heck just happened? i remember calling quincy on the phone, i said, did we say we are giving away half the nmoney or all the money? he said, lionel, don't try it. we are committing all of the money. i just want to -- because once you get past 50, 60, i mean, $60 million. but then you realize we kept trying to stop "we are the world." in other words, okay, we are winding down now. and then next thing we know, 2 million comes in. it's still breathing. it's still breathing. ♪ ♪ have you always had trouble losing weight and keeping it off? same. discover the power of wegovy®.

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thursday marked the 80th anniversary of d-day when allied forces landed in normandy in northern france and began their successful push to defeat nazi germany in world war ii. david martin takes us back to a moment just before the invasion. a time when victory was anything but certain. >> reporter: on the eve of battle, general dwight d. eisenhower spent the remaining hours of daylight with the paratroopers who were about to jump behind german lines into occupied france. a single moment captured by an amy photographer became the most enduring image of america's greatest military operation. >> it's one of those images that just causes you to pause. there is clearly something going on. there is conversation. we don't know what it is. >> reporter: james ginther is the archivist of the eisenhower library in abilene, kansas,

where a cutout of the famous photo has been turned into a selfie station. >> what makes this picture so iconic is that it perfectly captures all that was at stake on d-day. the burden of command. the lives in the balance. and the more you learn about this picture, the more perfect it becomes. >> why did he think it was important to visit the troops? >> because wars aren't won by armies. they are won by individual soldiers. and he knew the value of that. >> i was very young. it was my 22nd birthday. >> reporter: the soldier in the helmet since passed away, but he recalled his brief encounter with eisenhower in a 1994 interview with cbs news. >> we were really ready to go. we were all set. we had everything loaded. someone came running down the street and said eisenhower is here. everybody said, you know, so what? we have more important things.

>> reporter: nobody snapped to attention or fell into formation. >> you could hear the excitement as he came closer. so we turned and kind of looked out, and then he came over. at that point he stopped in front of me. >> reporter: he has 2 million people he is sending into battle. >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: why do you think he chooses the paratroopers? >> because they are the key to the whole operation. >> reporter: the germans had flooded the areas behind the beaches and the paratroopers were to jump in ahead of the main landing force to seize the causeways leading inland. strobel's mission was to knock out the german guns that could turn those causeways into shooting galleries. >> emphasized the fact, if you don't get the guns out by h-hour, the whole damn invasion is going to fail. >> reporter: what strobel didn't know, this letter stamped bigot landed on eisenhower's desk. it stands for british invasion

of german occupied territory. and was higher than a top secret classification. >> reporter: air marshal trafford lee mallory, the officer in charge of the air drops, wrote i am very unhappy about the u.s. airborne operations as now planned. and warned half the 13,000 paratroopers could be lost. in 1964, in an interview with walter cronkite, eisenhower recalled what lee mallory told him. >> he was so sure we were making a bad error that about a day or two before the attack he came to see me in my camp down here. and he just, he was really earnest in his recommendations, we must not do it. >> reporter: it was a call only eisenhower could make. >> this is general eisenhower's response on the following day. >> reporter: delivered by hand, it said, a strong airborne attack is essential to the whole operation and it must go on. it was in eisenhower's words a

soul-wracking decision. but he gave no hint of that as he mingled with the paratroopers an hour before they were to board their planes. so what exactly did the general say to lawieutenant strobel? >> where are you from? i said, admonishes u michigan. he said, michigan, you know, used to fish there. great fishing it in michigan. >> reporter: that famous photo? >> mm-hmm. >> reporter: talking about fishing? >> that's what wally says, talking about fishing. >> yep. >> reporter: that kind of changes my preconceptions of that photo. you look at it and you think he is going, give them hell. >> absolutely. >> reporter: maybe he is going like he is casting. >> he was trying to calm everyone down. >> reporter: eisenhower later told cronkite the paratroopers tried to put him at ease as well. >> they were getting ready and all camouflaged, their faced blackened and all this. they saw me.

of course, recognized me. quit worrying, general. we will take care of this thing for you. that kind of thing. good feeling. >> reporter: a better feeling the next morning when the main landing force went ashore on the beaches much normandy. all preliminary reports are satisfactory, eisenhower cabled in his first dispatch. airborne formations apparently landed in good order. it was too early to predict success. so eisenhower closed by saying he had visited the paratroopers the night before and the light of battle was in their eyes.

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>> reporter: don't let her modesty fool you. the 63-year-old actor has more than landed it. she made her debut on "saturday night live" in 1982 before going on to play some of tv's most iconic women, including elaine, the sarcastic best friend on "seinfeld." >> that whole thing, the whole production was all an act. >> not bad, huh? >> what about the breathing, the panting, moaning, screaming? >> fake, fake, fake, fake. >> reporter: and selina meyer, the narcissistic vice president on "veep." >> people equate you with a natural disaster. >> really? i met some people. a lot of them are [ bleep ]. >> reporter: she earned a record-setting 11 emmys, the mark twain prize for american humor, and the national medal of arts. your career has spanned four decades. >> jesus god. >> reporter: sorry.

>> that's crazy. >> reporter: that's great. >> amped up? that's you. >> reporter: impeccable comedic timing -- >> that'll cost you. >> ow! >> reporter: the star hasn't been afraid to dabble in drama. >> i still really wanted us to keep seeing each other. >> reporter: her new film "tuesday" is a reflection of that. >> hurts. >> where, honey? >> reporter: she plays zora, a mother struggling to cope with the fate of her dying daughter tuesday. >> i don't know what i am without you. who i am without you. i don't know what the world is without you in it. >> reporter: what drew you to that role? >> i was immediately intrigued because it was so out there. it's really sort of a magical fiction-y adult fairy tale. and i thought, okay, i'm going to take this leap. i'm going to do it.

>> mom, it's going to be all right. >> reporter: the film's fantasy comes in the form of of a talking parrot, who is the embodiment of death. >> i need to say goodbye to your daughter. >> reporter: when he visits tuesday, zora's maternal instincts are put to the test. >> you're trying to have him spare your daughter's life? >> yeah, going there to that place, to your worst fear and nightmare as a parent. it was crushingly difficult. to tell you the truth, i to call home a lot. >> breathe. >> reporter: she felt the story was a chance to get people thinking. >> it's an opportunity to have conversations about grief and death and dying. i think it's a taboo subject. >> reporter: do you think about how to have those conversations? >> yeah, i think about a lot.

i think endings in a weird way can be similar to beginnings. there is something sacred that needs to be honored and recognized. >> reporter: having survived breast cancer in 2018, living her life with meaning and joy is what julia louis-dreyfus is striving for these days. >> i'm julia louis-dreyfus. this is wiser than me. a show where each week i get schooled by women who are wiser than me. >> reporter: her passion project is her podcast "wiser than me" where she speaks with older women she admires and absorbs their life lessons. >> i feel as if older women sort of disappear from our culture and our society and there is a lot of wisdom to be gained from these ladies. they are on the front lines of life, and i want to hear from them. >> reporter: the conversations go deep and get personal on topics like aging, ex ssexism,

self-acceptance. >> i am a binge eater. i wake up and say i have an eating disorder. i still go to therapy, i still think about it. >> maybe it's because of my age and maybe it's because i was -- i had this really bad cancer scare and sort of brought certain things into sharp focus for me in a way. it's been a great gift to have the opportunity to talk to these women and to explore these subjects. >> reporter: last month "wiser than me" took home a web by, one of the most prestigious awards in podcasting for podcast of the year. >> listen to old women, mother [ bleep ]. >> reporter: family is never far for the podcaster. she calls her 90-year-old mother judith bowles at the end of each episode.

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